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'Released: November 1979Professional ratingsReview scoresSourceRating10/10A−Pretenders is the debut by British-American band, released on 7 January 1980 under Real Records in the UK, and in the United States. A combination of, and, this album made the band famous. The album features the singles ', ' and '.produced the Pretenders' first single, 'Stop Your Sobbing', but decided not to work with them again as he thought the band was 'not going anywhere'.
This has to be one of the greatest recommendations from the Steve Hoffman music forum. Other early Animals CDs all have something wrong with their sound.
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Took over on the subsequent recording sessions.Pretenders debuted at number 1 on the in the week of its release and stayed there for four consecutive weeks. It also made the top 10 on the and was certified Platinum during 1982 by the. Pretenders has been named one of the best albums of all time by VH1 (#52). In 2003, Rolling Stone ranked the album number 155 on its list of, and in 1989, ranked it the 20th best album of the 1980s. In 2012, Slant Magazine listed the album at #64 on its 'Best Albums of the 1980s'.Pretenders was remastered and re-released in 2006 and included a bonus disc of demos, B-sides and live cuts, many previously unreleased.
'Cuban Slide' and 'Porcelain' originally appeared as B-sides to 'Talk of the Town' and 'Message of Love', while 'Swinging London' and 'Nervous But Shy' both appeared on the flip side of 'Brass in Pocket'. The Regents Park demo of 'Stop Your Sobbing' was included initially as a flexi-single in the May 1981 edition of magazine. The tracks 'Message of Love', 'Talk of the Town', 'Porcelain' and 'Cuban Slide' alongside a live version of the album's opening track, 'Precious', were released on a follow-up EP entitled soon after.Pretenders was also reissued in 2009 by Audio Fidelity as a limited-edition audiophile gold CD, using the original master tapes. However, this remaster suffered from unauthorized, heavy supposedly applied after engineer 's was created and approved for CD manufacturing. The song 'The Phone Call' is missing some of the telephone effects on this release because the effects were 'flown in' after the master was completed for the song and, as a result, weren't on the original master tape.
There were no bonus tracks included.A shortened version of 'Tequila' would be performed nearly 15 years later on the. ' features singing portions of 'Stop Your Sobbing' over lengthy solos by and ' insistent drumming, making it a truly unique version.A cover version of 'Brass in Pocket' and the master version of 'Precious' are available as downloadable content for. Retrieved 29 March 2006. Caligiuri, Jim (15 December 2006). Retrieved 16 November 2006.
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Presumably it wasn't a jazz related question because.well, because all of those questions could be answered here, no? I wouldn't call the place a joke when it comes to rock related questions.there are alot of people over there who know their s. Sooooooo, you were asking something about an upcoming trip to Bratislava and seeking a list of hotels that have Pioneer 'Kuro' plasma sets in the rooms.and couldn't get an answer? Yeah, that place sucks when you're looking for that kind of info.
I'm no fan of the place, but.If rock-related quations are of no interest to you, then you are hardly in a position to judge whether it is a joke or not.I've actually found it useful many times for non-jazz issues, even if I don't dig the culture.Why not just say 'it's not for me'?You and I can have this disagreement here.Over there, one of us would have been banned. Hopefully I would have been.That's one reason. There are others.I hear you - personally, I have no time for a place that bans discussions of a poltical or religious nature, and despite the grief those topics can cause.as I sed, as a reference I've found it useful.It was this comibination. Actually, I can sift through that nonsense to find the meat, but those so-called 'gorts' need to get re-hab'ed for their obsessive use of censorship padlocks. What the hell are these people afraid of?As I said elsewhere on this forum, the Hoffman forum is not a more or less independent site where everyone can say (within reason) what they like; its main purpose is to promote Hoffman's interests in the music biz, and to protect his interests the moderators have set up an extensive and extremely strict book of rules. I think the moderation and some of the rules over there are over the top and I have told them so a few times - not that it made any difference, of course.Other things I don't like over there (to put it mildly) are the number of stupid and silly threads and posts and the extreme idolatry and sycophancy; it's not the exclusive domain of the Hoffman site, of course, but I find it sickening.
Nowadays I only go there for info on music I'm interested in. Edited 14 Feb 2010 by J.A.W.
I have very mixed feelings about that board. Yes, you can find lots of information there (and there are lots of people who are very passionate about music, which I like), but.a) it is becoming increasingly difficult to find the right information. No matter what recording you want info on, there are always two or three camps that give it 100%. Very confusing at times. You basically have to adopt one camp to be able to sift through the info.b) I understand (somewhat) that Hoffman needs to keep a tight reign on his forum because of his own interests, but why have a super-huge forum that will (!) get increasingly 'dangerous' for you and your business interests the more people you let in there?
That place is huge. If he was really interested in protecting his interests, I think he should delete it. I guess his ego won't allow that though.c) If you keep a tight reign on a forum, you could at least have one single thread or some notification about what you are deleting to keep people up to date.
There is so much deleting going on there constantly that bookmarks won't work long and you get totaly confused about things you read a few seconds before they completely disappeared (single posts or whole threads). It is exactly this clandestine behavior that I absolutely hate, especially becuase oftne what is deleted was viable information and just simply not up one gort's or Hoffman's alley.I'm using the forum less and less because I simply don't feel like searching for stuff all the time that has simply been deleted.Cheers!. All I would add is that in an online community that big, there are bound to be some wingnut posters and threads. Some of the obsessive stuff about 'weakest link' in a particular recording, bickering about waveforms, etc. Seems like it would fit right into the Onion.you wonder how they could possibly be serious, or have enough time on their hands to obsess over such matters.But there are also some knowledgeable folks who post, and some good info to be found in the archives. And say what you will about some of the over-the-top focus on early CD pressings, the fact that there is so much discussion and negative press regarding the 'loudness wars' is a good thing, IMO. All right.In fairness, my statement was based on a few threads that have interested me, that had to do with equipment and/or certain re-mastered CDs.
In each case, either Hoffman or one of his goons chimed in with the definitive, conversation-ending opinion, and that was that.As for the rest of the Website, I suppose it's useful if you care about which Steve Miller or Fleetwood Mac CDs have the best sound, but I have no interest in that.As for the promoting-Hoffman's-career/product angle, there are other message boards built around a similar model, but which tolerate dissenting views if they are expressed politely and thoughtfully.So, between all of this, I have deemed the site useless from my perspective. Obsessive audiophiles and members of the Hoffman congregation may feel otherwise, and I'm glad they have a corner of the internet where they can all marinade together. Edited 14 Feb 2010 by Teasing the Korean.
Hm, it seems to me that bashing other fora is still a popular sport here, be it AAJ or the Hoffman site - and yes, I am also guilty as hellAlthough I've done my share of bashing those fora here, on second thoughts I don't really see the point; just don't go there if they annoy you so much. What's the use of moaning about them here? It'll lead to nothing but useless discussions and it'll change nothing.Not only that, but this silly thread keeps bumping out my 'for sale' thread. Enough already!.